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‘Pretty sobering’: Thorn’s frank assessment of Wallabies-All Blacks gap – Sydney Morning Herald
The Reds coach, who has signed a contract extension which will keep him at Ballymore until the end of 2023, didn’t mince words…

It was 25 games, New Zealand teams won 23 of them. I think thats a good way of measuring it.
The Wallabies are having some tough contests with New Zealand. Theyre good athletes, very good skill set, they have a good mindset. Its a good system over there.
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